{"id":195,"date":"2008-10-02T21:32:05","date_gmt":"2008-10-03T01:32:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.mrclapper.com\/blog2\/?p=195"},"modified":"2008-10-03T09:55:25","modified_gmt":"2008-10-03T13:55:25","slug":"live-blogging","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.mrclapper.com\/blog2\/?p=195","title":{"rendered":"Live blogging:  Palin-Biden debate"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>9:09  did she just say joe sixpack? <\/p>\n<p>9:10  Joe Biden has been told exactly how to look at Sarah Palin while the camera pans to him.  <\/p>\n<p>I like that Joe Biden can talk about John McCain as an old friend\/old comrade&#8230;can talk in very specific ways about his record, in a way that the other cannot.  <\/p>\n<p>9:11  No one said anything about tax increases?   How did Palin get there?  <\/p>\n<p>9:12  Budget-procedural vote.  Biden actually understands this stuff.   <\/p>\n<p>495 times John McCain voted this way&#8230; <\/p>\n<p>9:13  I&#8217;m going to talk straight to the American people.  (I&#8217;m not going to answer what you ask).   <\/p>\n<p>9:14  Is Gwen getting pissed? <\/p>\n<p>Biden comes out with fairness theme.   <\/p>\n<p>I like this approach &#8212; &#8220;a different value set.&#8221;   <\/p>\n<p>9:15  Issue of redistribution (I have a problem with it.)  Great code word usage by Palin   <\/p>\n<p>9:16  Good job of Palin making taxcodes very simple and utterly irrelevant.<br \/>\ngreat question by Ifill &#8212; (interested in defending McCain&#8217;s health care plan)   <\/p>\n<p>5000k credit to buy health care is nonsense &#8217;cause it doesn&#8217;t address why health care is so expensive.  <\/p>\n<p>9:17   Biden &#8212; don&#8217;t lose your temper.   Decent job explaining health care&#8230;<br \/>\nBridge to nowhere comment !  <\/p>\n<p>9:20  Another great question by Ifill.  What would you have to slow down? <\/p>\n<p>9:21  Palin is not answering the question &#8212; what would your campaign have to slow down on.  (But&#8230;her coaches must be happy, she&#8217;s doing a great job of moving off-topic in a smooth way.  <\/p>\n<p>Another great follow-up; an even better come-back from Palin (how long have I been at this, five weeks?)   <\/p>\n<p>9:23  Biden knew where she was going and maybe knew more about windfall taxes than she did.   <\/p>\n<p>9:25 took her fifteen seconds to flail about until getting to a pre-made statement.<br \/>\nI think she&#8217;s running out of gas.  Take a deep breath.   <\/p>\n<p>9:26  Biden again shows that he knows this stuff really well.   (Could Palin tell the difference between Chapter 7 and Chapter 13 &#8212; I certainly can&#8217;t.)  Also, how much longer will the obvious difference between high content answers and the fluff answers<\/p>\n<p>9:28  I think it&#8217;s important to come back to energy.   Whoa!  Let&#8217;s just pretend there are no questions being asked.   <\/p>\n<p>Biden needs to keep on answering questions in provocative, thoughtful ways; if he can manage this for another half hour.  <\/p>\n<p>9:29  Climate change<br \/>\n&#8220;positively affect the impacts&#8221; ???<br \/>\nWhat are climate change impacts?   <\/p>\n<p>9:33  Great, great answer from Biden &#8212; if you don&#8217;t understand the causes, you can&#8217;t come up with solutions.   <\/p>\n<p>9:33  Drill, baby, drill &#8212; people are clamoring for oil.<br \/>\n(McCain supports the all of the above approach)   <\/p>\n<p>9:36  Visitations, contracts &#8212; okay.  But you can&#8217;t define marriage as anything as man and woman.   <\/p>\n<p>9:38  Exit strategy question.  The surge works.  (Again, David Petreaus, as Republican talisman.  Once he&#8217;s mentioned, let&#8217;s see how many times it comes up.)<br \/>\nWill Biden make another procedural argument regarding the vote (yes) <\/p>\n<p>9:40  Biden &#8212; I didn&#8217;t hear a plan.  Ten billion dollars a month.  Keep sayin&#8217; it.   <\/p>\n<p>Fundamental difference &#8212; we will end this war.   <\/p>\n<p>9:41  your plan is to surrender.  <\/p>\n<p>9:42  <\/p>\n<p>9:44  Pakistan vs. Iran as threats<br \/>\nJohn &#8212; central front of terror is in Iraq<br \/>\nvs.<br \/>\nBarack &#8212; hills of Afghanistan and Pakistan<\/p>\n<p>9:45 &#8212; Petraeus talisman invoked again.<br \/>\nAttack on Iranian leaders (and nice job pronouncing)<br \/>\nCastro brothers  who?  Invoking CUBA ? CUBA?  As a threat?   <\/p>\n<p>9:47  hate america! (hate as trembling)<br \/>\nattack on Obama for wanting to talk.<br \/>\nDiplomacy (hard work by serious people)   <\/p>\n<p>9:49  McCain won&#8217;t sit down with Spain !   <\/p>\n<p>9:50  Third rail warning:  Israel and Palestinian<br \/>\n&#8220;we will never allow a second Holocaust.&#8221;  Whoa!  <\/p>\n<p>vs.  <\/p>\n<p>9:52  &#8220;we both love Israel&#8221;  <\/p>\n<p>completely dodging the question about Israel<\/p>\n<p>9:54  Haven&#8217;t heard how McCain will be different from George Bush&#8217;s &#8212; stay with it, Biden &#8212; particularly when she refuses to answer questions in any kind of detailed way.   <\/p>\n<p>9:55  again, invoking Petraeus as republican talisman.   <\/p>\n<p>9:56  Facts matter.   The surge principle will not work in Afghanistan.  <\/p>\n<p>9:58  Shifts to positive story Dick Lugar\/Barack Obama  <\/p>\n<p>10:00 What&#8217;s McClellan&#8217;s first name and\/or rank &#8212; I don&#8217;t know but it seems sort of important.   <\/p>\n<p>10:00  Interventionism &#8212;<br \/>\n(multi-state solution in Iraq &#8212; isn&#8217;t this Biden&#8217;s idea?)<br \/>\nStop this genocide   <\/p>\n<p>10:02  this strategy of declaring yourself as an outsider can&#8217;t work for the entire debate.   Although what do I know, I suppose if you have enough charisma you can dodge questions with impunity&#8230; <\/p>\n<p>10:04  (strategy for democrats &#8212; let&#8217;s link McCain to Cheney rather than Bush)   <\/p>\n<p>10:05 HOORAY&#8230;the first reference to McCain&#8217;s personal experiences.   <\/p>\n<p>10:07  Biden hyperbole   <\/p>\n<p>10:08  DID SHE JUST WINK?  Disagreement from our couches.   <\/p>\n<p>10:11  Doggone it !  Let&#8217;s look ahead!<br \/>\nfrom the other couch &#8212; is this a joke ?  Is this for real?  <\/p>\n<p>10:13  Um.  The vice president breaks ties in the senate, right?    <\/p>\n<p>I do hope they get back to education?   <\/p>\n<p>10:14  &#8220;we will do what&#8217;s best for the American people.&#8221; But I think she&#8217;s missing the point of Ifill&#8217;s question regarding Cheney&#8217;s position, i.e., how did Cheney hide behind bizarre interpretations of the executive\/legislative branch?   <\/p>\n<p>10:16  That&#8217;s a silly question &#8212; what&#8217;s your weakness?  This calls for a silly answer, i.e., my weakness is helping old ladies across the street.   <\/p>\n<p>America is a nation of exceptionalism.   <\/p>\n<p>10:18 &#8211; 10:20  Biden losing it in a touching way.   <\/p>\n<p>10:21  consumate maverick   <\/p>\n<p>WE SHOULD LISTEN TO RUDY GUILIANI  <\/p>\n<p>10:22  FINALLY  &#8212; he&#8217;s not been a maverick on anything that affects people sitting around their table.   <\/p>\n<p>10:23  Single view that had changed over time; Ideology matters when considering judges.   (interesting choice &#8212; matters what your judicial philosophy is)   <\/p>\n<p>10:24  We don&#8217;t need to change in Alaska because we compromise.  <\/p>\n<p>My battery cut off here.  I closed the computer and after listening to pundits advocate for particular candidates rather even trying to explain what they heard&#8230;I turned off the television.  <\/p>\n<p>One last point &#8212; Geraldine Ferraro exclaimed that she wanted her grand-daughters to be proud of a woman debating on this stage. She continued to say that they would be. <\/p>\n<p>Sigh.   I guess I saw it differently.  <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>9:09 did she just say joe sixpack? 9:10 Joe Biden has been told exactly how to look at Sarah Palin while the camera pans to him. I like that Joe Biden can talk about John McCain as an old friend\/old comrade&#8230;can talk in very specific ways about his record, in a way that the other &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.mrclapper.com\/blog2\/?p=195\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Live blogging:  Palin-Biden debate<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-195","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p8rNFZ-39","jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.mrclapper.com\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/195","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.mrclapper.com\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.mrclapper.com\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.mrclapper.com\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.mrclapper.com\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=195"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.mrclapper.com\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/195\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.mrclapper.com\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=195"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.mrclapper.com\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=195"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.mrclapper.com\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=195"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}